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Thursday, July 7, 2011

STOP IS UPDATED

I've updated stops on the website in front of the jobs report tomorrow.

260 comments:

  1. Thanks, Gary.

    One of the things I appreciate about your service is that you post your daily updates in the late afternoon rather than in the evening.

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  2. Thanks for the update Gary. With an 80 point runup in eight days we could be in for a hold on and close your eyes choppy July / August.

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  3. I was actually talking about gold.

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  4. well on the hourly chart for xau/usd it's giving signals of running out of steam here

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  5. Gary,
    What are we going to put the 25% into?

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  6. Into the same three positions.

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  7. Eamonn,

    I'll pray for your buddy's mom. What's her name?

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  8. Gary, will you post realtime when you enter the positions tomorrow?

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  9. Got it Eamonn. Hope you're doing well.

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  10. Eamonn

    I pray that Christ will give comfort to your friends family, loved ones and Paula during this time of sorrow.

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  11. Marty, KAL: thank you. Much appreciated

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  12. Gary,

    Was last dollar cycle left or right translated?

    It was an 18 day cycle correct?

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  13. Eamonn,

    I stand with Marty in that prayer to Jesus Christ our Lord for your friend Paula, may she indentify herself with the Crucified Christ in her suffering.

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  14. Sorry in advance for the ignorance, but I'm relatively new to this blog. Can you point me to previous posts where the "left translated" and "right translated" cycles are explained?

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  15. Chris,
    Right and left translated cycles are explained in the terminology document on the premium website.

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  16. William,
    The last dollar cycle was left translated but still held above the prior cycle low because it formed is a triangle consolidation.

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  17. Gary,
    Thanks. I'll check it out.

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  18. Hey Gary, hope all is well. I've been keeping close tabs on your posts and nightly report. I got so burned out this Spring that I can barely look at a chart these days. (even thought I did quite well) I had my own surgery and business is keeping me on my toes. I plan on adding soon, but not currently long much of anything. Nice to see the blog is still humming along.

    Take care.

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  19. Jay,
    Good to know you're still alive and kicking. We were starting to wonder.

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  20. Gary,

    Thanks as always for the good report, but the jobs number was hardly spectacular. If it had been double the 115k, maybe, but new unemployment claims numbers are still 400k + for 13 consecutive weeks, so we are a long way from good job numbers.

    Elaine

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  21. Eamonn, we will pray for Paula.

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  22. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/us-markets-gold-equities-idUSTRE7661WS20110707

    From Reuters: Analysis: Gold stocks to outsparkle gold in post-QE2 world

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  23. Fubsy C. - thank you for your kind and detailed comments, you are tops.

    Rapper - sorry, I realized I was unclear, I only really meant to inquire about the absolute dangers of broken silver, you're right, I knew that AGQ magnified silver both ways.

    Is the underwater trader the explanation for the danger, or is it observation from other broken parabolae, or more? Do you hate these "why" questions?

    LV downtown is like Times Square on steroids (mostly testosterone) without The City around it. But I'm told NV or local is a haven for residential property taxes etc.

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  24. Felix,
    I agree with Gary that it is broken and therefore dangerous as it will probably behave erratically. Trapped longs could certainly be part of it and the overall mindset of traders will be extra vigilant causing crazy swings etc.. That said, I still think it has a decent run ahead of it but I am just playing it with smaller position and on a tighter leash. With all this caution it will probably double top or go higher just to tease.

    I have a million why questions.

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  25. Flipping through charts:

    This gold upmove was conceived in a big way on 17 June - have a look at the big, huge, and sometimes massive out of proportion, volumes that traded that day in GBG, AZK, NXG, RGLD, GSS, ANV, NGD, HMY, GOLD, IAG, IVN, GFI, BVN. It's particularly marked in smaller companies.

    This was a concerted bank/institutional sector buy (or short-covering) which took out all the stock overhang right after the HUI had been driven down marginally below its 490 support pivots.

    This all occurred before news of the Greek bailout on 23rd June and before gold was driven below 1500 from 23rd June to 1st July.

    Leopards don't change their spots - would not be surprised to see HUI 600 marginal new highs on the upside as a target now.

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  26. Éamonn,
    my condolences as well to your friend. I hope that her end is as peaceful as possible.
    (Speaking as someone who lost a parent fairly recently.)
    /Christian

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  27. God Bless Paula, her family and friends. Peace be with all.

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  28. I just noticed that Stockcharts are showing candlesticks on gold again [but not other commodities, or USD]

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  29. FWIW

    Oil vs SLV

    http://imageshack.us/f/651/imagejti.jpg/

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  30. SF
    great chart on oil v. SLV

    Oil was the secular driver during it's run up where gold is the secular driver for slv.

    I think the slv will follow gold higher, for the time being

    still, once they start heading for the door, it will be a stampede.

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  31. Michael,

    Good post, agree. Alex was also seeing this in real time a few weeks ago and a few others were talking about miners showing all the signs of a major bottom.

    I'm sensing that miners could finally steel the show here. They tend to do best at the tail end of big gold runs.

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  32. Gary,

    To me the current setup its looking more and more like your T1 pattern, have you given this any thought?

    The past c wave tops (06 & 08) were T1's and the INT low before the last cycle top (consolidation area) never dropped down sharply, just like this one.

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  33. Jobs report is out

    O-U-C-H

    private sector

    57,000 June vs 73,000 May

    June unemployment rate highest since Dec 2010

    etc

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  34. Poly,
    That does look like a possibility considering that an average leg up for gold would be about 24%.

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  35. Gary,
    Still thinking about adding today?

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  36. Stop on system is now in and looking bullish. G nails it again:)

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  37. Jobs... +18. Wasn't expecting such horrendously bad numbers. Gary, does this mean you'll be deploying the rest of the model portfolio on the open?

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  38. I was hoping for a pullback , not a surge higher. I'll probably wait till next week.

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  39. I think this means QE3 is coming in August. If we can hold through any drawdowns between now and then, post-August should be fun.

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  40. Yes Gary, KUDOS, nailed a very difficult IT cycle low.

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  41. Gary, I know you had changed the stops ahead of NFP report, at what point will stops be moved back to what they orginially were?

    Thanks

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  42. Veronica,
    I've been watching your post since you were Vuvvy and you've been right on with gold too. Do you also get buy signals on stocks and etfs?

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  43. Looks like its back to "surprises will come to the upside" mode again...

    I can DEFINITELY live with that!!

    :D

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  44. I will replace the stops now as it has become abundantly clear that we do have an intermediate bottom in place.

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  45. 9 day deferred ma broken decisively, and there will be resistance at low 1550's.A correction if it happens there may be a good add point.

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  46. Wave, I really have not gotten involved in stocks since 2002 but have been riding this gold bull since then. I have a couple systems for GDX/HUI but I prefer the lower stress of trading gold futures. Being able to get in and out around the clock is very important to me.

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  47. anybody knows where i can see SPX & $hui pre-market future?

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  48. HUI I'm not sure about but it has everything else (and its real-time unlike Finviz)

    http://www.futurespros.com/

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  49. Try this for futures...

    http://www.finviz.com/futures.ashx

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  50. Veronica,
    Thanks for the heads up 1550. Gold had a bit of trouble in that area last time.

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  52. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{GARY}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    And I thought I did too much shopping the last two days! :)

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  53. Long GDXJ 72%+, EUO 13%
    Cash 15%

    +increased position

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  54. Hard to believe a miss of this magnitude only produces a 100 point drop in the dow. As you say Gary, the market does what the market wants to do.

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  55. Like I said a miss would weaken the dollar and that would support stocks.

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  56. Gary-
    Looking at the SPX intermediate cycle, it seems like we have to take a stand and call the previous cycle either 30 weeks or 13 weeks. If it was in fact 30 weeks (which seems more likely due to many stretched cycles as of late), wont a very short cycle generally follow a long one? Could this cycle be 10-15 weeks and top in sub-4 to make it left translated?

    Thanks

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  57. Very Nice call on the entry point Gary . Do as Gary does not what he says is the lesson I've learnt here.He has super Fantastic instincts

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  58. oa92000

    This is the long way around, but if your system is not supper high teck, this is a way to see how any stock is trading pre-market.

    Go to bigchartsmarket watch.

    Type in a STOCK symbol.

    Go to: Advanced Chart.
    Profile
    Overview

    Now you can go to any ETF.

    Jenny

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  59. MBS,
    I've been considering the theory that the previous cycle that bottomed in March was 36 weeks long and we now had a short cycle to even that out.

    If that's the case then the current cycle should run a normal duration.

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  60. Mr. Miyagi, Michael, or...

    Can you critique an option on GDX, strike 45 for 1-12?

    Thanks, Jenny

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  61. Gary,Did I miss anything, did you bought the 3 items in the model portfolio or you are going to wait for next week?

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  62. Gary, do you still feel SLW is one of the best companies in the world? Do you think the strength of its model insulates it from volatility in the price of silver to make it a worthwhile exception to your current no-silver position?

    Thanks for your thoughts.

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  64. I covered all my shorts (OIH, DUG, JCP, EPV). I was just looking for a scalp and we got it. Go PM's! I am hoping for a dip to add on. Some on the first sharp dip and more on the next DCL wherever that ends.

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  65. Looks like the boys are using the strength in gold here to take their profits on the miners, after this big run up. Miners due for some consolidation, we might get our 2nd bite at the miners soon enough.

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  66. Another leg down in the miners means another leg down in gold.

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  67. If I wanted to start a new account on $500, would splitting between DGP and NUGT be a good starter invest?

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  68. Miners are having trouble breaking through the 200, we see this before the final leg down in gold in previous IT's.

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  70. We're on DAY 4 of a new Gold IT cycle that should run 4+ months!

    Already in this new cycle the miners up 20% in many cases. They will consolidate and form a little base to spring through the 200, a retest of it's lower 50dma likely.

    Some perspective helps.

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  71. David,

    The Open Interest on that far-dated GDX option is 89 contracts vs 10's of thousands in other more liquid at-the-money strikes. It will just be you versus the computer, and they like to move the goalposts on you a bit here and there. In-the-money options like this not traded as much as ATM and slightly out-of-the-money because they lose much of the characteristics of an option and other reasons. All this Dec deep-ITM option gives you is leverage, which you can find in DGP or futures to your heart's content. Plain vanilla options to use if you really want to go down that path are roughly 1-4 months out on the expiry and ATM or 5-15% OTM. Ofcourse, theoretically, you could still be totally right on the direction of gold with these but still lose money because of time decay and changes in the underlying volatility.

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  72. Silver lagging gold big time...last time this happened (a Friday again), silver crashed the next 4 days...if silver doesn't catch up before close, I will close 50% of my positions...will buy back at next dcl

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  73. Gold will tag the 10 sms In the next few days. That should give a good entry for new positions. Then it depends how early we are in the daily cycle whether a breakout will offer another chance to add, or if one should wait for the next dcl.

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  74. Poly,

    If the dollar 3 year low is in, what does this mean for gold's new IT?

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  75. David,
    January 2012 GDX 45 calls is what you're asking about?
    My opinion is that you're going too far and too deep for your money. Personally, I would go with December 49 or 50 if you want to go that far. At this time the open interest is low but as time goes on it should go higher.
    Just my opinion.

    Have you read the Options Delta tutorial that I posted the link to some time ago?

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  76. Michael, thank you for your response! I understand what you are saying and will incorporate it in my planing.

    Jenny

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  77. Besides the financial crises when the dollar rallied and all assets were dumped, gold has managed to put in strong and consistent IT cycles. There have been gold IT cycles with a rising dollar that have done well too.

    I also like to keep reminding myself that a bull market of this size and age (11+ years) is going to get crazier by the cycle and believe it the rally's more vertical.

    Even if the dollar does OK for say a year out of a new 3yr cycle, it's going to be window dressing. It will primarily do well on a Dollar Index basis, as the Euro accounts for 55%, weakness there will give us the illusion of a strong dollar. However against Gold, Swiss, Yes, Aussie/Canadian, the dollar got killed recently. Dollar index is a flawed measure of the dollar, IMO, especially when used to view possible gold performance.

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  78. Gold right at the top of resistance IMO at 1542.

    A pullback to 1520 wouldn't be surprising however a surge higher would be welcomed!

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  79. Mr. Miyagi

    Yes, I read the Options Delta tutorial. I thought one of his points was to go out 2-5 series so that delta was near .8 and not very close to 1. That is why I was exploring the (yes, call) I suggested.

    Thank you for your response. I know I am low on the learning curve, but wish to progress!

    Jenny

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  80. David/Jenny,
    That call option for January 45 gives you a delta of .94 or so, quite high I think. As well, the timeframe is long in concurrence with analysis expectations.
    In other words, you are paying extra premium for a timeframe you are not going to benefit from.

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  81. Bernanke to testify before Congress for two days next week.

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  82. So far there hasn`t been hardly any suffering so how could they start to institute qe3 already? But then, maybe what do logic and reason have to do with it? Of course not saying it`s not coming, but in what form? Did anybody hear anything more on Obamas job stimulus? I`ve been keeping an eye out but haven`t seen anything.

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  83. Say that to the 16% (U6) unemployed.

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  84. Mr. Miyagi,

    Thank you for your imput! I will continue calculating!

    Jenny

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  85. Poly,
    agreed, but that`s the way the man wants it. The more the people suffer, the more the man likes it and the more power and control they gain.

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  86. Gary,

    When do you plan on adding the rest of positions?

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  87. Jenny/David,
    Ultimately it is your decision but that is my opinion as well as most others on this board.
    Glad you're asking questions though!

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  88. Mr M,

    Can you please post that options tutorial again, I missed it. Thanks

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  89. Treasury notes, bonds and miners doing quite well today. EXK up 24% in one month...

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  90. 50 day MA - looking like strong resistance for silver..constant selling at that level

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  91. When I'm ready to add I will post it to the website.

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  92. and the USD is rallying as well...it tanked on the employment report and now back nicely in the green...was the morning tanking a fake out?

    this has been once confusing daily cycle to figure out for the USD, gold, and stocks

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  93. Gary,
    You took out the stops prior to the jobs report, have you put them back on?

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  94. 86,

    doing good brother, just watching and waiting, most likely going to start initial positions on a pullback. If no pullback I want to see how gold deals with 1550 resistance. Im still not competely convinced that the Intermediate cycle low is in. Reason being, all other intermediate cycles of this C-wave were 25 weeks or better, among other things I dont want to get into now because if the bottom is in it wont matter.

    Other then that im watching birds hit my window!

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  95. Gary,

    I was just wondering according to what plan that would be.

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  96. This market is crazily confusing!

    Dollar refusing to give up and continuing to rise from the dead every time I think we have it figured out.

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  97. Gold looking tired at this level, if not for the surge on the jobs numbers I think we would have a big down day today IMO.

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  98. I doubt we would have a big down day this soon after an intermediate bottom, but it is conceivable that gold could form a bull flag or sideways consolidation to allow the 10 day moving average to catch up a little bit.

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  99. Gary,
    I understand your strategy in playing the gold ETFs, I've listened to your interviews on Contrary Investors Cafe, so I know you don't like the risk associated with miners.
    But, have you looked at Sandstorm Gold? They are a gold streaming company and the CEO is the former CFO of SLW. The stock has been doing really well recently and I'm sitting on a pile of the 2014 warrants (SNXXF.PK) and am up 50%.
    Just wanted to know if you are aware of this company and if you are what you thought about them.
    TIA

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  100. The dollar's direction is not at all clear.

    If we are headed into recession -- and the employment numbers seem to indicate that -- the dollar will strengthen. This will put pressure on stocks and gold. Sentiment has been reset in both, clearing the way for future declines in risk assets.

    The miners may have bottomed ahead of gold, but I would proceed with caution.

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  101. Miners are not doing as good as pms but they had a runup prior.

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  102. Gary,

    Would you expect an SPX sell off this afternoon that might pull PM's with it?

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  103. wmp,
    Going the other way now..!

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  104. Mr M,

    As soon as I hit the button it went up!

    Let's try again..do we think the SPX will finish big and pull pm's with it?

    Now we can prepare for the sell off..

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  105. WMP,

    LOLLL, the horrors of being a trader...sometimes I move markets myself.

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  106. Gary,

    Why are you not adding to the rest of positions here?

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  107. Here's the thing. With ETF's I have no company specific risk so I can take larger positions.

    Trying to pick individual mining stocks and outperform and ETF's is exciting, like gambling. But I'm not in this to gamble, I'm in this to make money. I want to do that with as little risk as possible. That means I will leave the individual mining companies to others.

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  108. Gary, Hope you can answer this, did you deploy 25% or waiting for a right opportunity?

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  109. William,
    I will add when we get some kind of pull back. I already have a large enough position that I don't have to chase.

    I'm hoping that those gaps on GLD will fill next week. That may give us the opportunity were looking for.

    Patience my friend.

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  110. AAPL, AMZN & IBM are threatening to turn positive.

    There's probably a decent chance the market recovers all losses by the close.

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  111. Gary,

    Gotcha, so basically if we dont get a pullback, then what, will you just not chase and be happy with your position?

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  112. William,
    All I'm looking for is a regression to the mean back to the 10 day moving average. That can come as a pullback or a sideways consolidation.

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  113. Gary,

    no way the market recovers all losses by EOD. No way, Jose Gary Savage ... NO WAY!

    If it does, I'll buy you a burrito or three.

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  114. Quite often when AAPL is up on a day the market is down it's a sign that buying pressure is coming in.

    Since I have nothing to risk I'll take you up on the Burrito :)

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  115. I hope I lose ... one learns more when one is wrong than when one is right.

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  116. Burrito and a margarita to wash it down. What say ye?

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  117. I hope you lose because I like burritos, and I really like three burritos.

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  118. Gap fills in GLD. Time for a trip south?

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  119. If the mkt recovers the losses by the close I will be reshorting what I covered this morning. Too juicy to pass up.

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  120. I'm liking the looks if the pm complex more all the time. The 50 and10 dmas are ready to converge on the gdx which will likely line Up with Golds move to the 10 Low risk entry on a swing low near there.

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  121. History is indeed littered with broken parabolas that remain weak and continue down, but could the current strength in gold, gold and silver miners, and very committed COT on silver suggest that silver is coming along for the ride here?

    http://edegrootinsights.blogspot.com/2011/07/silver-setup-needs-new-descriptive.html

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  122. William Wallace, if you are there, would you send me a mail, please?

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  123. I believe silver will double top near $50. It will rally with gold and then when the next gold correction comes will probably make new lows while gold may not. I agree with Gary that it is very unlikely to make new highs, but a rally to 48 is a nice percentage from here. It will not go down while gold rallies.

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  124. Sidebar:

    I wonder if those guys at ADP get bonuses?

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  125. Gary,

    Do you let strange bloggers who can't pop over to Suisse buy you chicken burritos at Frank & Fionas? Doubt I'll ever get back here, though heaven knows.

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  126. SLV will close with a black hanging man candle just under the 50d moving average. There's no way this is positive.....

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  127. Hey that's ok - if you'd said yes I'd say you really were a daredevil... However your loss! LOL

    [ouch! smackdown!]

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  128. SLV is just a proxy for an instrument that is traded 24 hours.

    Candlesticks are based exclusively off opening/closing/high/low prices. Thus the candlestick reading on such securities are flawed, IMO.

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  129. For each day of this new IT cycle in gold, it has been closing very near or at the high of the day.

    Gold's normal behavior in bull runs, IMO, is to spike early in the day and fade out by the afternoon giving back 25-50% of the days gains, but still staying positive.

    I know 4 days don't make a trend.

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  130. no burritos .. bummer ... next time

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  131. EXK did the $10 roll...on to $15

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  132. EXK up close to 22% on the week, SVM over 18%, after 2 up weeks prior.

    I did not add today, but did keep all current positions. Seems like we should be due for some sort of pullback, but I'm happy to keep shares instead of confetti.

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  133. Looks like Bill Clinton agrees with Gary. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/exclusive/lost-decade-bill-clinton-spur-job-growth-economy-154922419.html;_ylt=AsaCqDJuxAU4qSlNvbCUnU.s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTM3bmd0cWhhBHBrZwM3MzBjY2E0OC04NzQ0LTMzY2EtODk4NS1mN2JkNzdlYTU2NmMEcG9zAzIEc2VjA1RvcFN0b3J5IEZQBHZlcgM3MDIwM2NhMC1hOTdhLTExZTAtYmJmZC02MGU4NWQ2MThkNjU-;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3

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  134. Poly,

    So do you consider gaps and candlesticks on GLD flawed also? Just curious.....

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  135. Flawed is not the best word, but "distorted" for sure.
    Certainly for gaps, this past holiday weekend is a good example.

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  136. Once again, Gary has proven himself to be well ahead of the game. Excellent work spotting the bottom G-man. I can't wait to recoup some of the profits from silver's collapse so I can come to Vegas and buy you a few burritos! Hell, I'll even throw in a beer or two! :)

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  137. This chart shows how gold's rampage against the Euro has been pretty much unabated. In fact today gold at all-time highs priced in Euros. Courtesy Dan Norcini...

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SMDNSAT71Z4/Thcn5ZhP00I/AAAAAAAAAg4/mvmOGceruuk/s1600/snapshot-773.png

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  138. Jobs jobs jobs

    Big surprise today? Not really

    Bay area CA where I'm at is laying off police, firemen and city employees.
    Last shuttle today, Florida, Utah, and other subcontractors will be (already started) cleaning house.

    I'm glad to be employed.

    What will it take to turn the jobs situation around?

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  139. SF Giants Fan, seems like the system is broken. With all the money thrown at the system and still no jobs. Seems incredible. And a booming stock market

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  140. It will take a new industry.

    Until we have one they can throw away all the money they like all it will accomplish is to put us deeper in debt.

    That means higher taxes or higher inflation or both. And both of those are a net destroyer of jobs.

    And now you know why all the work programs in the 30s only lengthened the depression and didn't cured it.

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  141. Éamonn, throwing money at the system helps prevent the formation of industries which will create jobs. Instead, it encourages malinvestment of capital, misallocation of resources, encourages speculation in the wrong crap; further, the ZIRP destroys the ability for retirees to supplement their income safely and drives many into risk assets which eventually will crater (ala '08) etc.

    In other words, you can't print your way to prosperity. Iceland is a good example of an economy which is trying to avoid bailouts and is regaining it's footing the old fashioned, legitimate way.

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  142. Gary, that new industry SHOULD have been windmills; or solar (the little we have is starting to be offshored); or genuine cures for productivity sapping diseases like Parkinson's or MS (my brother has Parkinson's, and I've become aware that a cure will never be found in the US because of the incredible money made by treating symptoms). How about super efficient autos, using lightweight alloys? How about leading the world in LED technology?

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  143. Ben, the words you mentioned "old fashioned, legitimate way" ring true. This idea of printing money is patently crooked. Its a con job. It seems really obvious to me. Why don't the smart people know this?

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  144. It's deflation. I'm amazed that anyone is surprised given the two historical precedents -- the great depression and Japan in the 1990's. The world is awash in bad debt that acts like a black hole sucking up all the world's productive capital.

    Until the debt is destroyed through repayment or (more likely) default, nothing is going to change.

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  145. The auto industry and the energy industry are already mature industries. They may supply incremental job growth but they aren't going to pull us out of this.

    What we need is a completely new industry. Something like the Internet or personal computer, electronics and plastics, automobile and mass production.

    My best guess is that will come from the biotech industry, but it's not ready yet and won't be for a while.

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  146. Quantum computing would be a breakthrough. Or another look at thorium power plants

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  147. Gary

    That has always been the case. Aerospace in the 80's, dot com and Internet in the 90's-00's. Real estate and finance last ten years.

    Now we have been spending on war, bail outs, QE1 QE2...

    Let the system fail, then let fix it instead if the constant bandaids.

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  148. The fault is in the political system. Letting the system fail is the correct thing to do but it has very negative political consequences.

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  149. Nantoech was the buzz, now cloud tech, have to see where this leads us.

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  150. Until we clean house and cut back their salaries and outrageous benefits, political system won't get fixed. It needs to start with the current administration to lead the way if it is going to happen.

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  151. at ease..., what "outrageous benefits" do you refer to?

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  152. Transportation, healthcare, early retirement benefits, security, and perks we don't even know about. Most industries and jobs have no retirement benefits other than your own IRA or 401 that you pay into. Not the politicians, they vote themselves raises and approve their own benefits. Where on earth does anyone do that other than a dictator? We need to start with them.

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  153. Gary, yes, new industry, like all my examples except auto. The auto part would be super efficient components of the industry perhaps.

    Éamonn, the elite know that printing money doesn't help the general economy. They don't give a rat's ass about that -- it helps THEM, and that's all that matters. The elite get the freshly counterfeited FED monies, e.g. the military industrial complex, the bankers, the TBTF institutions which have their losses transferred to taxpayers.

    The mistake people make is in thinking they are stupid; they aren't -- they just don't work for US. Follow the money and the transfer of wealth. It's not an accident that the elite have possession of more of the national income and a greater share of the national wealth than at any other time in US history. Bernanke works for THEM, not us.

    So... we are all here because a side effect of their egregious monetary policy is to fan the flames of the gold bull. We are some of the few who will be spared (assuming we don't screw up with a million dollars of out-of-the-money options that go the other way...).

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  154. James Altucher had a very intriguing idea the other day. His suggestion was to do away with Congress. They don't actually represent the will of their constituents anymore. They are bought by lobbyists.

    With the Internet nowadays the population could easily vote on any new laws and the will of the people would prevail. There are too many of us for the lobbyists to buy our votes.

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  155. Before they start messing with SS or Medicaid, start with their benefits first, set the example for self sacrifice. Aren't they public servants?

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  156. Maybe we should all start learning Chinese :o)

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  157. In California, they have police captains earning nearly 1/4 million per year, fire and police able to retire at > 100% of their earned income when they are just 52-55 years old.

    Those sorts of things must, and will end.

    In private industry, just look at CEO salaries. Those few individuals rob a company of future prospects. In the past 10 years, maintaining the CEO rocket trajectory of increases and literally required jobs to be offshored.

    Lack of employment opportunities for millions of Americans should come as no surprise to anybody.

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  158. p.s. on the fire/police pensions -- those folks don't even pay into their retirement systems.

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  159. Yes, I agree Gary, what started out as part time positions, they manuevered themselves into full time paying jobs and benefits instead of serving the people who elected them. They serve who stuffs their pockets with cash. Funny how they all write books now. Must be nice to have so much time on your hands, that you can write a book?

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  160. ...at ease, good point about the book thing. Where the hell do they get the time to write the books? Hmmmmmm....

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  161. Gary, the one thing I would change about the constitution is to declare that people must be carbon based life forms -- corporations etc. are not people.

    Then we can start passing laws to restrict the bastards and allow our gov't to return to representing the people instead of being run by, and for, corporations.

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  162. at ease,

    I make it a point never to buy a book from anybody who used to be an elected official. My way of helping to stop that trend.

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  163. Inviting you all, since we are here, we have the same concerns:

    http://w3.newsmax.com/a/aftershockb/index_s.cfm?promo_code=C8F0-1&#order

    Weidermer brothers are GOLD enthusiasts for safe haven investing.

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  164. Riots in the streets and vote the bum's out I say.

    Most politicians don't have a clue. All they care about is their next election.

    On that subject, All politicians shouldn't get paid with public money during their re-election campaigns. Let's see how long Obama spends traveling the country during his campain like many past presidents. They have a country to run.

    I've got a hundred more, but I'm going out to dinner to fill my belly and spur the economy.

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  165. Fed will launch ‘QE3’ by fall, expert says

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-will-launch-qe3-by-fall-expert-says-2011-07-08

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  166. Ben, I refuse to buy their books also. When I look at the book stands I am appalled.

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  167. The following is from Bill Bonner at The Daily Reckoning:

    We are sitting in our favorite café in Paris...listening to the Beach Boys and reflecting on the decline of the US Empire. Back in the '60s, the Beach Boys celebrated a country that was young, growing, optimistic...and a winner. Now, what we see is the whole kit-and- kaboodle of life in the US giving way to desperation, delusion and an irresistible impulse to commit imperial suicide. The economy turns sour. The military becomes malignant. Households are corrupt, bankrupt and dependent. Even the churches sing their hallelujahs to Caesar now.

    What's "imperial suicide?" It's what empires do. If no other empire arises to kill them...they kill themselves. China will probably eventually crush the US militarily. But that is far in the future. The US can't wait. It lets the zombies run wild.

    At home, Congress debates a "debt ceiling" measure, as if it made any difference. They've raised the ceiling 93 times since they first imposed a debt ceiling 94 years ago. What are the odds that they will hold the line this time?

    Zilch. Instead, they'll continue borrowing and spending until the nation goes broke. Count on it.

    The US economy was a free-market success story for a hundred years...from the end of the US War Between the States to the end of the Vietnam War. It was the richest, fastest-growing, most innovative, most competitive, and most admired economy in the world. But then, in 1971, Richard Nixon replaced a more-or-less solid dollar, vaguely backed by gold, with a pure paper dollar, backed by nothing but the good intentions of government employees.

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  168. Is it possible that the US government could stop people from transferring money out of the country? I read somewhere too that they could force a percentage of your brokerage account into US Treasuries if they are stuck for money...

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  169. SF G fan, I have to agree with you, however Obama has been running for next election since his last election. It's a joke. I love how the families travel around the 3rd and 4th years in office on our dimes. (Oh yeah, good will).

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  170. Eamonn, they can do whatever they want, and it will start with govt employees, since they fund and manage the accounts. Main reason I had my hubby transfer his govt funds to Fidelity. One step further away from their hands.

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  171. Ben

    Chuck reed mayor of San Jose is doing just that. If police and fire don't take benefit cuts he will reduce head count. It make me sick to pay a fireman to sleep on the job. Work them 8 hrs and sent em home just like cops. They get 3% per year in retirement. So after 30 years = 90% of pay. Then they get a 3% increase per year. So after 3 years they are making 100% of their salary an then they work part time for the department they retired from.

    Double dip...

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  172. Take a look a Jim Sinclairs mindset website. Scroll down a way and he has a great video segment of David Stockman making a great case against Fed actions and policy. He argues that he was just looking after the elite of Wall Street, not the US economy.

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  173. SF Giants Fan, wow, never knew being a fireman could be so good

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  174. They way they have retired at >100% is by cashing out vacation days (and sick days?) and getting the lump sum to factor into the equation.

    Worse, if you are a fireman or cop where the pay is 40k a year for 25 years and transfer e.g. to Orange county to 150-240k a year, your retirement is computed based on the highest years and hence you could retire at 135-250k per year even though most of your life you earned 40k in podunkville.

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  175. In California we have a ballot initiative system that works much as you describe, Gary.

    Unfortunately, the citizenry here is no different from politicians -- they may say they oppose spending in surveys, but they routinely vote for expensive ballot initiatives that are to be paid for through "bond issuance", i.e. more debt.

    Then they vote to cap the property taxes that would actually pay the bills they're incurring.

    The reality is that politicians borrow and spend because voters like it that way. People love government spending -- Social Security and Medicare are the most popular programs in existence, and they represent the majority of the federal budget (discretionary spending only accounts for 13% of the budget).

    In this country we have become like children. We expect the state and federal government to maintain roads, the national defense, the USDA to keep our food from being poisoned, to pay for our health care in our old age -- we just don't want to pay the bill. In this sense we are much like Greece, where nobody pays taxes but everyone expects to retire with a pension at 50.

    This was not how it was in our grandparents' generation. They understood that nothing comes for free, and that bills must be paid.

    Until the culture changes where we are willing to pay for the services government provides or do without those services, nothing will change, regardless of what system of government we have.

    The only thing that will change things is when our debt burden forces us to make these choices, much as Greece is being forced to right now.

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  176. Typical schedule is 3 days on and 4 days off. Then they reverse it. On their off days they will work part time. How many full time employers allow holding multiple jobs?

    Then the retirement calculation percentage is on the salary during the last 5 years. So during that time they work tons of overtime and take banked sick time and vacation to boost the average salary.

    What a system.

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  177. Éamonn,

    What you refer to is known as currency controls. Just review how Argentina screwed it's citizens over and over for the playbook that might come to the US. Marc Faber has said he believes the end game in the US will involve currency controls (to trap you in US dollars) and in the confiscation of gold (although I really don't know WHY they would do that unless a gold standard were considered anyway).

    Other stuff in Argentina though -- confiscating retirement funds (401k, IRA type stuff). They would do that "for our own good" and they'd give us credits in a privatized SS system. In short, you'd be screwed, and they would force you to buy the debt that they are defaulting on via monetary inflation.

    If I hear substantial rumbling about currency controls, I will be taking a trip to Canada.

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  178. Ben, Why do you think we are here. I certainly don't want to have to depend on anyone. Especially the govt. However, whatever we make here, they will figure out a way to take it from us also. So who knows who will be better off.

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  179. More from Bill Bonner:

    And every time we look at it, we see more evidence. California, the West Coast Greece, is going broke. Any guess why? From Bloomberg:

    California Prison Psychiatrist Paid $838,706, Data Shows

    July 5 (Bloomberg) - A chief psychiatrist for California's overcrowded prison system was paid $838,706 in 2010, more than any other state employee that year, according to payroll figures released today.

    The doctor, whose name wasn't released, had a salary range of $261,408 to $308,640, according to data released by Controller John Chiang. The total compensation was raised either by bonuses or payout of unused vacation time or sick days, according to the controller's office.

    The 10 highest-paid state employees each earned more than $500,000 in the 2010 calendar year, for a total of $6.2 million, the figures show. All except three were a prison doctor or dentist. The most-populous US state runs the nation's largest correctional system, with about 163,000 inmates, and is at 175 percent of capacity, according to the Corrections and Rehabilitation Department.

    And here's a headline from The Financial Times:

    "The state is now the dominant force in US capital markets."

    The article goes on to explain that American capitalism is now dominated by credit provided by the US government. For the first time ever, the feds are the "biggest source of outstanding home mortgage and consumer credit loans in the US."

    What do you call a free market economy where the major source of financing comes from the government?

    Ha...ha...

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  180. See the link for July 14th, perhaps if enough of us unite, we can make a difference.

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  181. If I had a gross salary of $100,000 in the USA, what percentage of it would be deducted for taxes etc for the government?

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