As I said in two comments below, he should sign up for Covestor and prove he can win over the long haul. I'd bet a gazillion burritos that if he wins this year, then he will still eventually give it all back, and more, to the market. Winning this year doesn't even mean his subscribers got back to even from last year.
Not gonna argue with you. Remember when he told everyone that he thought he could help his subscribers outperform most hedge funds with very little risk? The exact opposite happened.
I think by now everyone has got your message. Would you like to create a standard comment that I can post every time I post a new chart? :)
BTW by the time the secular bull is done I expect the SMT will so massively out perform 99% of the hedge funds in the world that they won't even be in the same ball park.
Everyone has a losing year sometimes. That just the nature of the business. The manipulation last year caught me off guard. I recognized it was happening as early as Jan. 24th but I didn't think it would last as long as it did. I'm kind of in the same boat with stocks. I recognize that the Fed is keeping the markets artificially propped up while they taper but I can't say how long they will be able to keep it up. Unfortunately I don't have any tools that can predict when manipulation will occur and whether or not it will succeed. That's what makes these markets extremely difficult to trade successfully right now as virtually every market is being manipulated to a greater or lesser degree.
However I think everyone would have to agree that once I got a grip on the manipulation and started taking it into account I've been calling the metals pretty well over the last year and a half.
Unbelievable! yes, when gold and silver are going down is because of manipulation and when they're going up because of real demand. I'm sure with this principles you're going to really outperform 99% of the hedge funds like uou did in the past 3 years. By the way, gold over the long term is a terrible asset and it only covers for inflation (and not even the real one but the fake one). Timing is everything and your timing is totally off.
Well of course it was manipulation. During a natural bear market supply comes back into the market. Too much supply & too little demand. That's the definition of a bear market.
But that's not what happened. As price went down down demand went up and supply decreased. The exact opposite of what should happen during a bear market. That is the confirmation that last year was an artificial bear market created by manipulation, and not real market forces.
Now with the fundamentals growing weaker (tapering) gold is going up. How can one explain that? The answer of course is that the true secular forces are starting to overwhelm the manipulation.
Gold could still turn and head back down but it will only happen as a result of another massive manipulation event, not because of any fundamental reason.
It's looking less and less likely though as each premarket attack is getting beaten back quicker and quicker. It now looks like there are a few big buyers that just sit in the weeds and wait for an attack and then they immediately jump on it and make the manipulators pay. Tuesday morning's attack was a classic example. The white night made them pay dearly for that BS.
and i continue to repeat. SHOW US YOUR AUDITED P&L!!! MY GRANDMOTHER SHOULD CHARGE MORE FOR A SUBSCRIPTION THAN YOU. AT LEAST RANDOM TRADES PERFORM BETTER THAN YOURS
Hey Anonymous you moron, I don't see you sticking your neck out daily as Gary has done. You don't even have the balls to post your name. Go Fu#k yourself and crawl back to your cave, jack@ass. Joe.
BTW by the time the secular bull is done I expect the SMT will so massively out perform 99% of the hedge funds in the world that they won't even be in the same ball park. " ________
lmfao. holy cow. Well. I'll give you 'won't even be in the same ball park' alright.
Dude, you don't have a clue. I mean like NONE. If you were running a hedge fund (LMFAO) you would have been shuttered a LONG time ago and so already out of the running.
How about you just work on beating my kids buy and hold SPY? lol.
"How about you just work on beating my kids buy and hold SPY?"
Already did that this year in the last three weeks. Our miners are so far ahead of the S&P it have no chance of ever catching us this year.
We'll bet a burrito on it. By the time the bubble phase in gold arrives I bet the SMT subs will have so vastly outperformed almost every hedge fund in the world that it won't even be a contest. And we'll do it without leverage.
"Does that include recovering all the losses since the silver parabola?" // Great question. I think, from now on, he needs to sign up for a site like Covestor that would track his trades and which doesn't just cherry pick the wins.
'Already did that this year in the last three weeks. Our miners are so far ahead of the S&P it have no chance of ever catching us this year. "
lmfao!
Boy, FOOL, you really try hard to look dumb!
For a buritto, anyone,.... what's wrong with looking ONLY at the ONLY time period in over 3 years that he's been profitable? (the last month?? lol)
What a dumbass.
What's wrong with it?
First off it's NOT YOUR REALITY, FOOL! Nor is it anyone's dumb enough to have followed you.
YOUR REALITY is a NET LOSER over ANY time frame that actually matters.
I can assure you my KIDS buy and hold SPY has killed your performance and WHAT IS MORE, the REALITY is I called you as the DRAWING DEAD FOOL you are, BEFORE you ate crap, lost ALL your gains from previous years and STILL are not back to even.
LMAO
-THAT IS YOUR REALITY -
So yeah, keep looking, talking and acting like the FOOL you are. It's so MUCH EASIER for people to see the obvious and to just step away when you talk SUCH STUPIDITY.
Bet you a buritto? You would have to borrow the funds....
This guy is a FIRST CLASS LOSER folks,
His actions when he was went negative told it ALL.
Is it not obvious to all yet?
LOL i have faith in humanity and will answer.....yes. lol.
It is true, Flea did predict Gary would underperform T-bills and it happened...just like he predicted that a futures day trader (Rob Hoffman) would give back all his gains and more...and the latter happened as well...even before Gary gave back his gains. Bottom line is a simple buy and hold of SPY will beat Gary over the long haul, and even cash in the bank will beat Gary over the long haul as long as it is FDIC insured. :) A simple buy and hold of GDX over time would still likely beat Gary too. If you're a gold bug, then either learn how to trade on your own or learn how to buy and hold.
It is true, Flea did predict Gary would underperform T-bills and it happened...just like he predicted that a futures day trader (Rob Hoffman) would give back all his gains and more...and the latter happened as well...even before Gary gave back his gains."
Thank you my friend.
I have to admit I got lucky on timing with Rob Hoffman but essentially you can just make the bet any time as all of these raging fools are the same.
They have no talent whatsoever, wouldn't know the first thing about hedging or hedge fund activity and certainly haven't a CLUE how to put a decent trade together.
Thanks for not spilling the beans as to how we've profited off of this same run than Gary is claiming some sort of miracle from, lol. It would be too easy to rub it in his face, but i think quiet success of the kind he'll never see is its own reward, lol.
Who the critics or Gary? I agree with the critics. Plain old buy and hold of SPY, or even just cash in the bank could beat Gary over the long haul. I think Gary should sign up for a site like Covestor that would track his trades, although I don't think they support options.
The trade is easy. Until Gary believes gold will bo parabolic gold WILL NOT go parabolic. the moment he will capitulate, buy as much as you can because it's time for the parabola to start. I think he'll stick to his ideas for a lot longer so we are at least a few years away from that moment.
You kidding me? We profited extremely well from this move and did not get hammered on the way down like Gary subscribers did. We're not buried in miners. On the other hand, I suspect many of Gary's subscribers are still trapped "Old Turkey" from around the low 50s in GDX If they're still trapped, then they need around a double just to get back to even!
It amazes me how when you try to help people, they just want to believe in a lie or fantasy rather than see the truth....by the time they realize it, it ends in tears and they will wish they had listened.
Not gonna hold my breath and wait for Gary to sign up for Covestor and be accountable for his trading mistakes. I'd even be willing to credit him a gain in GDX off the exact bottom, and bet that he still easily gives it all back, and more, within 3 years or less.
On the chance that we actually have seen an early and left translated top in the US Dollar index on just week 4, how many weeks, potentially, until the buck completes the intermediate cycle low?
I guess this should be bullish for gold but judging by the way things have been going, it should be very bearish for the stock market, right?
Wow! Lots of emotional folks posting today with really good credentials and trading records. I'd like to follow you guys - sounds like you know what you are talking about. What is your website Flea and Anonymous and what do you charge for your subscription?
We don't need to start a site to show you how to beat Gary's P/L. T-bills easily beat Gary over time. Buy and hold of SPY easily beats Gary over time. Cash in a safe buried in your back yard beats Gary over time. :)
OK - thanks Anonymous - I guess you would not need a website to verify the return on T-bills, SPY or cash buried in one's back yard. I mean, that kind of information is available easily available in lots of places. So, you are blogging on this website to tell us you invest in T-bills and SPY and put cash in your back yard? Which have you had the most success with?
Heck, any helpful insights will be appreciated because I imagine you have given these investments a lot of thought as you refer to them with such passionate bold confidence. Which of the three do you think is going to do the best for the remainder of 2014?
Personally I don't think the stock market but if you disagree that's fine. The dirt option doesn't make money but arguably it doesn't lose money (well, except maybe at the rate of inflation which we all know is next to zero). My pick would be T-bills. What about you?
Nothing wrong with staying in cash and waiting for a good opportunity. The easy money in miners was already made by us, several times, both before and after Gary finally lucked out and tossed a dart correctly...LOL..so there's no reason to get greedy....we already profited nicely. Sometimes cash really is the best position until the market offers another good opportunity. That's all I'm sayin' for now. :)
Oh wow!... you almost made back the $1000 you paid Gary...and you have to pay tax on the options gain as well. Anyone can double their money with options in the very short term. If I were you, I would quit now, before you give it all back, and more.
Thanks Anonymous for the advice to stay in cash for now. I will follow your recommendations with interest and as you have greatly outperformed others in the past I hope you won't mind that I keep an eye on your every word and suggestion. Please don't leave the blog because I am sure you are going to help me trade much better in the future! Did you have a P&L for the past 3 years you wanted to share with myself and the other bloggers? That would greatly impress me. It's been a very tough (if not impossible) gold bear market for the past 3 years and one, such as yourself, who has prospered deserves great accolades. So you think being in total cash for now is the correct positioning and that is your trade call? OK - June 24 all cash. I am going to enjoy documenting and benefiting from your wisdom from this day forward. Thanks!!
THIS GUY HAS BEEN WRONG THE WHOLE TIME THE LAST 3 YEARS. DON'T BUY HIS SUBSCRIPTION. IT'S A FRAUD!!
ReplyDeleteAs I said in two comments below, he should sign up for Covestor and prove he can win over the long haul. I'd bet a gazillion burritos that if he wins this year, then he will still eventually give it all back, and more, to the market. Winning this year doesn't even mean his subscribers got back to even from last year.
DeleteNot gonna argue with you. Remember when he told everyone that he thought he could help his subscribers outperform most hedge funds with very little risk? The exact opposite happened.
ReplyDeleteI think by now everyone has got your message. Would you like to create a standard comment that I can post every time I post a new chart? :)
ReplyDeleteBTW by the time the secular bull is done I expect the SMT will so massively out perform 99% of the hedge funds in the world that they won't even be in the same ball park.
Everyone has a losing year sometimes. That just the nature of the business. The manipulation last year caught me off guard. I recognized it was happening as early as Jan. 24th but I didn't think it would last as long as it did. I'm kind of in the same boat with stocks. I recognize that the Fed is keeping the markets artificially propped up while they taper but I can't say how long they will be able to keep it up. Unfortunately I don't have any tools that can predict when manipulation will occur and whether or not it will succeed. That's what makes these markets extremely difficult to trade successfully right now as virtually every market is being manipulated to a greater or lesser degree.
However I think everyone would have to agree that once I got a grip on the manipulation and started taking it into account I've been calling the metals pretty well over the last year and a half.
Unbelievable! yes, when gold and silver are going down is because of manipulation and when they're going up because of real demand. I'm sure with this principles you're going to really outperform 99% of the hedge funds like uou did in the past 3 years. By the way, gold over the long term is a terrible asset and it only covers for inflation (and not even the real one but the fake one). Timing is everything and your timing is totally off.
ReplyDeleteWell of course it was manipulation. During a natural bear market supply comes back into the market. Too much supply & too little demand. That's the definition of a bear market.
DeleteBut that's not what happened. As price went down down demand went up and supply decreased. The exact opposite of what should happen during a bear market. That is the confirmation that last year was an artificial bear market created by manipulation, and not real market forces.
Now with the fundamentals growing weaker (tapering) gold is going up. How can one explain that? The answer of course is that the true secular forces are starting to overwhelm the manipulation.
Gold could still turn and head back down but it will only happen as a result of another massive manipulation event, not because of any fundamental reason.
DeleteIt's looking less and less likely though as each premarket attack is getting beaten back quicker and quicker. It now looks like there are a few big buyers that just sit in the weeds and wait for an attack and then they immediately jump on it and make the manipulators pay. Tuesday morning's attack was a classic example. The white night made them pay dearly for that BS.
and i continue to repeat. SHOW US YOUR AUDITED P&L!!! MY GRANDMOTHER SHOULD CHARGE MORE FOR A SUBSCRIPTION THAN YOU. AT LEAST RANDOM TRADES PERFORM BETTER THAN YOURS
ReplyDeleteHey Anonymous you moron, I don't see you sticking your neck out daily as Gary has done. You don't even have the balls to post your name. Go Fu#k yourself and crawl back to your cave, jack@ass. Joe.
ReplyDelete"Gary June 22, 2014 at 2:10 PM
ReplyDeleteBTW by the time the secular bull is done I expect the SMT will so massively out perform 99% of the hedge funds in the world that they won't even be in the same ball park. "
________
lmfao. holy cow. Well. I'll give you 'won't even be in the same ball park' alright.
Dude, you don't have a clue. I mean like NONE. If you were running a hedge fund (LMFAO) you would have been shuttered a LONG time ago and so already out of the running.
How about you just work on beating my kids buy and hold SPY? lol.
- Flea
"How about you just work on beating my kids buy and hold SPY?"
ReplyDeleteAlready did that this year in the last three weeks. Our miners are so far ahead of the S&P it have no chance of ever catching us this year.
We'll bet a burrito on it. By the time the bubble phase in gold arrives I bet the SMT subs will have so vastly outperformed almost every hedge fund in the world that it won't even be a contest. And we'll do it without leverage.
Does that include recovering all the losses since the silver parabola?
Delete"Does that include recovering all the losses since the silver parabola?" // Great question. I think, from now on, he needs to sign up for a site like Covestor that would track his trades and which doesn't just cherry pick the wins.
Delete'Already did that this year in the last three weeks. Our miners are so far ahead of the S&P it have no chance of ever catching us this year. "
Deletelmfao!
Boy, FOOL, you really try hard to look dumb!
For a buritto, anyone,.... what's wrong with looking ONLY at the ONLY time period in over 3 years that he's been profitable? (the last month?? lol)
What a dumbass.
What's wrong with it?
First off it's NOT YOUR REALITY, FOOL! Nor is it anyone's dumb enough to have followed you.
YOUR REALITY is a NET LOSER over ANY time frame that actually matters.
I can assure you my KIDS buy and hold SPY has killed your performance and WHAT IS MORE, the REALITY is I called you as the DRAWING DEAD FOOL you are, BEFORE you ate crap, lost ALL your gains from previous years and STILL are not back to even.
LMAO
-THAT IS YOUR REALITY -
So yeah, keep looking, talking and acting like the FOOL you are. It's so MUCH EASIER for people to see the obvious and to just step away when you talk SUCH STUPIDITY.
Bet you a buritto? You would have to borrow the funds....
This guy is a FIRST CLASS LOSER folks,
His actions when he was went negative told it ALL.
Is it not obvious to all yet?
LOL i have faith in humanity and will answer.....yes. lol.
-Flea
It is true, Flea did predict Gary would underperform T-bills and it happened...just like he predicted that a futures day trader (Rob Hoffman) would give back all his gains and more...and the latter happened as well...even before Gary gave back his gains. Bottom line is a simple buy and hold of SPY will beat Gary over the long haul, and even cash in the bank will beat Gary over the long haul as long as it is FDIC insured. :) A simple buy and hold of GDX over time would still likely beat Gary too. If you're a gold bug, then either learn how to trade on your own or learn how to buy and hold.
DeleteWould someone like Warren Buffet ever choose to put any of his money to work with Gary, or even recommend they follow Gary? Think about it! :)
Delete"June 23, 2014 at 9:44 AM
DeleteWould someone like Warren Buffet ever choose to put any of his money to work with Gary, or even recommend they follow Gary? Think about it! :)"
The liar truly has no clue.
I mean, where do you even start with this con-man?
Only a mental midget would try and reconcile YEARS of losing by talking about a one month winning streak.
I mean, really, where do you start with that type of retard-speak?
How outright DUMB would anyone have to be to give this CLOWN any credence whatsoever?
These are the question i would be asking Gary - who is really the financial equivalent to Jim Jones.
I can assure you, a BLIND MONKEY can throw darts and hit a bulls-eye once in a while, it does NOT mean he can play darts - quite the contrary.
When this CLOWN was at his apex, when it sounded the most crazy to say so, I called him for the dart-tossing fool i ALREADY knew he was.
-Flea
"Anonymous June 23, 2014 at 9:42 AM
DeleteIt is true, Flea did predict Gary would underperform T-bills and it happened...just like he predicted that a futures day trader (Rob Hoffman) would give back all his gains and more...and the latter happened as well...even before Gary gave back his gains."
Thank you my friend.
I have to admit I got lucky on timing with Rob Hoffman but essentially you can just make the bet any time as all of these raging fools are the same.
They have no talent whatsoever, wouldn't know the first thing about hedging or hedge fund activity and certainly haven't a CLUE how to put a decent trade together.
Thanks for not spilling the beans as to how we've profited off of this same run than Gary is claiming some sort of miracle from, lol. It would be too easy to rub it in his face, but i think quiet success of the kind he'll never see is its own reward, lol.
Congrats.
-Flea
The guy is ignorant and arrogant.
ReplyDeleteWho the critics or Gary? I agree with the critics. Plain old buy and hold of SPY, or even just cash in the bank could beat Gary over the long haul. I think Gary should sign up for a site like Covestor that would track his trades, although I don't think they support options.
DeleteThe trade is easy. Until Gary believes gold will bo parabolic gold WILL NOT go parabolic. the moment he will capitulate, buy as much as you can because it's time for the parabola to start. I think he'll stick to his ideas for a lot longer so we are at least a few years away from that moment.
ReplyDeleteGary can we delete this guy? We got it. You're not perfect and he's buried in the miners.
ReplyDeleteSee my "are you kidding me?" post below. And I didn't even mention anything about GDXJ, or expired/worthless GDX & SLV calls and LEAPS. :)
DeleteIt's multiple people posting - past subscribers who got burnt clearly
DeleteYou kidding me? We profited extremely well from this move and did not get hammered on the way down like Gary subscribers did. We're not buried in miners. On the other hand, I suspect many of Gary's subscribers are still trapped "Old Turkey" from around the low 50s in GDX If they're still trapped, then they need around a double just to get back to even!
ReplyDeleteholooo1957 delete yourself. i'm only trying to protect people from a fraud
ReplyDeleteIt amazes me how when you try to help people, they just want to believe in a lie or fantasy rather than see the truth....by the time they realize it, it ends in tears and they will wish they had listened.
DeleteNot gonna hold my breath and wait for Gary to sign up for Covestor and be accountable for his trading mistakes. I'd even be willing to credit him a gain in GDX off the exact bottom, and bet that he still easily gives it all back, and more, within 3 years or less.
DeleteOn the chance that we actually have seen an early and left translated top in the US Dollar index on just week 4, how many weeks, potentially, until the buck completes the intermediate cycle low?
ReplyDeleteI guess this should be bullish for gold but judging by the way things have been going, it should be very bearish for the stock market, right?
Wow! Lots of emotional folks posting today with really good credentials and trading records. I'd like to follow you guys - sounds like you know what you are talking about. What is your website Flea and Anonymous and what do you charge for your subscription?
ReplyDeleteWe don't need to start a site to show you how to beat Gary's P/L. T-bills easily beat Gary over time. Buy and hold of SPY easily beats Gary over time. Cash in a safe buried in your back yard beats Gary over time. :)
DeleteOK - thanks Anonymous - I guess you would not need a website to verify the return on T-bills, SPY or cash buried in one's back yard. I mean, that kind of information is available easily available in lots of places. So, you are blogging on this website to tell us you invest in T-bills and SPY and put cash in your back yard? Which have you had the most success with?
ReplyDeleteHeck, any helpful insights will be appreciated because I imagine you have given these investments a lot of thought as you refer to them with such passionate bold confidence. Which of the three do you think is going to do the best for the remainder of 2014?
Personally I don't think the stock market but if you disagree that's fine. The dirt option doesn't make money but arguably it doesn't lose money (well, except maybe at the rate of inflation which we all know is next to zero). My pick would be T-bills. What about you?
Nothing wrong with staying in cash and waiting for a good opportunity. The easy money in miners was already made by us, several times, both before and after Gary finally lucked out and tossed a dart correctly...LOL..so there's no reason to get greedy....we already profited nicely. Sometimes cash really is the best position until the market offers another good opportunity. That's all I'm sayin' for now. :)
DeleteHey anonymous moron, Now up 190%...LMAO!
ReplyDeleteOh wow!... you almost made back the $1000 you paid Gary...and you have to pay tax on the options gain as well. Anyone can double their money with options in the very short term. If I were you, I would quit now, before you give it all back, and more.
ReplyDeleteSHOW US YOUR P&L OF THE LAST 3 YEARS!!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks Anonymous for the advice to stay in cash for now. I will follow your recommendations with interest and as you have greatly outperformed others in the past I hope you won't mind that I keep an eye on your every word and suggestion. Please don't leave the blog because I am sure you are going to help me trade much better in the future! Did you have a P&L for the past 3 years you wanted to share with myself and the other bloggers? That would greatly impress me. It's been a very tough (if not impossible) gold bear market for the past 3 years and one, such as yourself, who has prospered deserves great accolades. So you think being in total cash for now is the correct positioning and that is your trade call? OK - June 24 all cash. I am going to enjoy documenting and benefiting from your wisdom from this day forward. Thanks!!
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